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RE: Remote participation fees [Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom ELEGIBILITY]

"MH Michael Hammer (5304)" <MHammer@ag.com> Sun, 15 February 2015 02:33 UTC

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From: "MH Michael Hammer (5304)" <MHammer@ag.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Subject: RE: Remote participation fees [Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom ELEGIBILITY]
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The one thing I haven't heard raised is the risk of disengagement by folks who only participate and contribute in particular working groups and are not "IETFers" in the sense that many of you are. You may find that many remote contributors to working groups that are not sponsored by enterprises will find other venues to contribute their time and energy. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:10 PM
> To: Stephen Farrell
> Cc: ietf
> Subject: Re: Remote participation fees [Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom
> ELEGIBILITY]
> 
> > I think we ought forget about charging for remote attendance until
> > remote attendance is much better.
> 
> given the current state, we should pay people to endure it.
> 'participate' is not an appropriate term.  it's like watching tv; though today,
> your tv listens to you [0].
> 
> randy
> 
> --
> 
> [0] http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-changes-smarttv-privacy-policy-
> in-wake-of-spying-fears/
>

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