Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Wed, 11 February 2015 21:15 UTC

Return-Path: <mcr@sandelman.ca>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9E01A038C for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:15:26 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.911
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FFhOaBfpnU1R for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:15:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 997FC1A1A22 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:15:01 -0800 (PST)
Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C6D203CD; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:22:27 -0500 (EST)
Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id F383963A21; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:14:59 -0500 (EST)
Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD884637F4; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:14:59 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
To: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom
In-Reply-To: <20150211204443.8CB3E1A1A99@ietfa.amsl.com>
References: <CAL0qLwZk=k-CWLte_ChK9f1kzLwMOTRyi7AwFa8fLjBsextBcA@mail.gmail.com> <CAP8yD=uky=fbJNA5KjCSk3q+u036++c+pnR_3inmvnOECxRRKA@mail.gmail.com> <CAL0qLwYsSXBYjrQ54M9VFHdp1htrjbLX-ZQjzZ78WeLzPjzZXQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAP8yD=v1djPpXhQ-+=esxRKVpuzUcs57S5e4auChdjdMfHP7vw@mail.gmail.com> <20150211204443.8CB3E1A1A99@ietfa.amsl.com>
X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 24.4.2
X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m<nPbLgmtKK-5dC@#:k
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:14:59 -0500
Message-ID: <1588.1423689299@sandelman.ca>
Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/Rowg7INK_D_vwAig_tWLRF_Cp54>
Cc: ietf <ietf@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:15:26 -0000

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> wrote:
    > Allison - your desire to have 3+ interviewers per interviewee is going
    > to contribute to slowing down the process even more.  At this point I
    > see us starting to try and begin the process a full two years before
    > confirmation. (Yup - hyperbole, but seriously, we're spending WAY too
    > much calendar time from first indication of candidacy to selection).

I can not agree with you.

If anything, slow thinking and good interviews contribute to *FASTER*
decision making, because you don't have two people who jumped to a conclusion
fighting each other for hours/days.

My Nomcom finished all it's work a week before Xmas, the rest of the delay is
due to CB discussions, and just simple CB scheduling.
The previous one (Allisons) was about the same.

The one before (Matt) took much longer because the transport issue.

As for your notion that the nomcom could provide the CB with two from which
it could select: ha.  That's fiction.

--
]               Never tell me the odds!                 | ipv6 mesh networks [
]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works        | network architect  [
]     mcr@sandelman.ca  http://www.sandelman.ca/        |   ruby on rails    [