Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 09 January 2015 18:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: Updating BCP 10 -- NomCom
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Eric Burger <eburger@cs.georgetown.edu> wrote:
    > Here is a hypothetical that gives the answer. The nomcom has got
    > feedback that nominee X has been consistently obstructive in resolving
    > disputes and is always unwilling to compromise. Nomcom doesn't know
    > whether this is valid. Should <change>nomcom ask people in the
    > community</change> to comment?

    > My answer is Yes. As the liaison is part of the community, there is no
    > reason not to ask the liaison to comment,

And my experience is that the liason often does go to the datatracker, outside of the
call, and provides the same kind of feedback as anyone else.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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