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Subject: Re: [111attendees] test
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Hi Chukwuka, Have a look at the agenda and set it to "Local" where it says "Time zone: Meeting | Local | UTC": https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/agenda.html To test connection: https://ws.conf.meetecho.com/conference/?group=testing or for more details: https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/111/ietf111-meetecho/ I assume you've already seen: https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/get-started/ Regards Brian Carpenter On 25-Jul-21 04:10, Chukwuka Odele wrote: > Hello > > > Has the meeting started yet? > > > How do I ( a first time attendee) attend? > > > > Thanks > Chukwuka > > On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 1:15 PM, Stewart Bryant <sb@stewartbryant.com <mailto:sb@stewartbryant.com>> wrote: > > +1 > > Stewart > >> On 23 Jul 2021, at 18:30, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com <mailto:john-ietf@jck.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> --On Friday, July 23, 2021 16:37 +0300 Lars Eggert >> <lars@eggert.org <mailto:lars@eggert.org>> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 2021-7-23, at 16:26, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>> wrote: >>>> I for once think that it will only work well if the in-person >>>> meeting part would require attendees even when being together >>>> in a room to use their notebooks for discussions instead >>>> of having a physical line at a single microphone, so that >>>> there is more fairness between local and remote, but that >>>> was never really discussed on manycouches or >>>> picked up their documents. >>> >>> that is because SHMOO is not chartered to work on guidelines >>> for hybrid meetings - it is chartered to work on guidelines >>> for fully online meetings. (I think I recall seeing that being >>> pointed out on the manycouches list.) >>> >>> If community members would like to make proposals for hybrid >>> meetings, that can of course be done via individual I-Ds. But >>> SHMOO cannot begin work in this space without a rechartering. >> >> But, Lars, moving up several thousand meters... >> >> Independent of the more specific suggestions from several of the >> people you have copied and others, I think one of two things is >> true as a matter of logic. Either (1) we are convinced that, >> realistically, fully in-person meetings are so far in the future >> that we should concentrate our energy on figuring out how to >> make all online meetings work as well as possible or (2) unless >> there is some likely flag day in the near further such that we >> can realistically plan on almost everyone coming back to >> "normal", in-person meetings all at once, we should be putting >> effort into figuring out how to do hybrid meetings well, >> starting with figuring out what "hybrid" means for us. >> >> If the first case applies, spending time in SHMOO and/or in >> consultations by the LLC fine-tuning criteria for going back to >> in-person meetings or whether the "next" meeting will be in >> person, is a waste of time and resource. >> >> Either way, it seems to me that, as IETF Chair and General Area >> AD, it seems to me, if the SHMOO charter and work are no longer >> a good match for the needs of the IETF, you have both the >> authority and responsibility to make that determination and to >> either shut things down or initiate a conversation about >> adjusting the charter so that things get onto a more useful >> track. Or you could propose that people start working on a >> charter for a SHMHybrid WG that would compete with SHMOO for >> interested people, time, and resources (it is probably clear >> that I don't think much of that idea, but it is logically >> possible). >> >> It seems to me however that, unless you have a plan about how >> individual I-Ds --ones that the experience of the last 18 months >> suggests would be very controversial-- would reach consensus >> without a WG structure and be processed, is sort of missing the >> point. >> >> thanks for listening, >> john >> (for identification in this context: still, I believe, the >> only AD to have decided that a WG was going sufficiently off the >> rails to have shut it down in the middle of the meeting -- no >> IESG member is being paid big bucks by the IETF to be popular, >> only to Do the Right Thing.) >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lars >>> >> >> >> -- >> 111attendees mailing list >> 111attendees@ietf.org <mailto:111attendees@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees> > > -- > 111attendees mailing list > 111attendees@ietf.org <mailto:111attendees@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees> > > -- > Sent from my iPhone >
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- [111attendees] Hybrid meetings (was: Re: test) Lars Eggert
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