Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)

[Joerg Ott <[e-mail]>]

Maybe this was said before: the IETF seems to be over-organizing
things.  Bar BOFs used to deliberately be informal gatherings.
Maybe there is a need for more formal ones; maybe they are something
else.

But the IETF should not start formalizing informal methods.  What
next?  Do we do pre-Bar-BOFs as informal gatherings?  Will we then
at some point come up with agendas and room allocations for pre-Bar-BOFs
as well?

One thing not to forget is the perception from the outside how long
standardization in the IETF takes.  We should avoid causing statements
like "Well, you need to do informal opinion building, then 2-3 bar bofs,
then you get to do 2 BOFs, and then -- after 2 year, you may end up
with a working group..."

I see us overdoing it here.

Joerg


Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2010, at 19:54, Melinda Shore wrote:
> 
>> I'd like to see informal
>> gatherings stay as informal as possible, including not being
>> able to use IETF meeting A/V equipment. 
> 
> As I explained, that would be a mistake.
> 
> Gruesse, Carsten
> 
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