Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)

Hi

I actually like the bar-BoFs but to avoid that things get out of proportions I guess one can put it in one sentence. 
"Want to have a bar-BoF?, sure, go ahead but don't expect (full) support from the IETF secretariat or that ADs will attend"

I find the Beer thing less important though :-)

/Ingemar

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:77attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Ott
> Sent: den 31 mars 2010 10:27
> To: Stephen Farrell
> Cc: 77attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: 
> ip traceback)
> 
> Couldn't agree more.
> 
> Joerg
> 
> Stephen Farrell wrote:
> > 
> > On 03/31/2010 05:02 AM, Stephan Wenger wrote:
> >> P.s.: what's next?  The Scotch BOF requiring Blue Sheets?
> > 
> > Exactly. Too much pointless formality creeping in all the time.
> > That's a negative trend and is not IMO at all necessary.
> > 
> > So:
> > 
> > - Fewer to zero well-organised alcohol-free Barbie-BoFs next time 
> > please.
> > 
> > - And more real bar-BoFs with no agenda and the alcohol option for 
> > those that want it.
> > 
> > - If someone wants an empty room the secretariat should give it to 
> > them if possible. Or you should just walk in and use the 
> space if no 
> > one else is there. We should just trust folks for that, 
> until there's 
> > a reason not to do so.
> > 
> > - Lars' draft should have security considerations. When a 
> real bar BoF 
> > lasts too long, there's much more chance of drunkenness, loudness, 
> > questionable humour and other good things. With the Barbie-BoFs, 
> > there's a higher probability of a full week's worth of 
> process-induced 
> > boredom leading to crappy security designs being accepted.
> > 
> > S.
> > 
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