Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Tue, 30 March 2010 18:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)
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  On 3/30/10 8:47 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> too many bar bofs obviates/undercuts the purpose of real BOFs.
> then i would take away the message that 'real' bofs are not meeting the
> needs of folk trying to get work done.

I think there's some truth to this.  My recollection, and Randy can 
correct this if I'm wrong, was that the bar was set relatively high for 
an official BoF as space during the day difficult to find, requiring 
careful balancing of interests.  So-called "bar bofs" have always been 
part of the meeting in an informal way, but now it seems we are 
formalizing them in some way.  So long as the bar for their allowance is 
relatively low, I see no reason not to allow them.  But I am 
disappointed that they are nowhere near bars.

Eliot