[77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)

[Jari Arkko <[e-mail]>]

Martin, Spencer,

> I'll point out that this information isn't widely known.  Without making a statement about whether that is appropriate, organizers of these sorts of meetings cannot be expected to know this.
>   

I understand this problem. However, I'll point out that for many active 
WG chairs/editors and in particular IESG and IAB members the week is 
pretty packed. Publication of additional information about side meetings 
may not help, if there simply isn't other time to move sessions to. Just 
as a data point, yesterday for lunch slot I had two things that I wanted 
to be at in addition to the traceback Bar BoF. For the after-plenary 
slot, I had two overlapping Bar BoFs and a directorate dinner.

In any case, I'm not sure its a good trend that our Bar BoFs are 
becoming more like official meetings, with rooms, presentations, etc. 
I'm glad there are many Bar BoFs, but they should probably be held as 
informally as possible. In an informal discussion, it is much easier to 
admit that something is a bad idea, make drastic changes to the 
direction, find cool new ways to handle a problem, etc. And there should 
not be a requirement that an AD or IAB member must participate, for 
instance. I'm also thinking that it would probably increase the quality 
of these meetings if the organizers were required to buy at least two 
rounds to the participants :-)

Jari