Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)

Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Tue, 30 March 2010 23:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback)
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On Mar 30, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> On 2010-03-31 08:30, Scott Brim wrote:
>> Eliot Lear allegedly wrote on 03/30/2010 14:51 EDT:
>>> I think there's some truth to this.  My recollection, and Randy can
>>> correct this if I'm wrong, was that the bar was set relatively  
>>> high for
>>> an official BoF as space during the day difficult to find, requiring
>>> careful balancing of interests.
>>
>> The threashold for a real BOF might not be too high considering how
>> important they are in the IETF, but people find it intimidating to
>> figure out how to do what they need to do, and seek other paths with
>> less resistance.
>>
>> (Personally I don't mind at all that bar BOFs aren't near bars.)
>
> My bottom line is that we had better stick to the rule of having no
> rules for bar BOFs, except that they can't camp in contracted meeting
> rooms without a nod from the meeting management.

They are subject to the Note Well. That is certainly a rule.

Regards
Marshall


> They certainly shouldn't
> have any right to expect ADs or WG chairs to be present.
>
> I like Randy's point about having some FCFS meeting space available,
> but that is probably just a financial issue.
>
>     Brian
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