Re: [87attendees] [87all] IETF 87 Berlin Meeting Review

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Thu, 15 August 2013 15:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [87attendees] [87all] IETF 87 Berlin Meeting Review
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I don't think we should imagine that we can have a major influence on 
the booking policies of hotel chains. I'm sure they think long and hard 
about this, and the tradeoffs that overbooking entails. (Just as 
airlines clearly do.)

Do major hotel chains differ in a significant way about how they handle 
this? If so, maybe we could insist on being told what the policy is, and 
then use that as a factor in which hotels we choose.

	Thanks,
	Paul

On 8/15/13 11:13 AM, Jakob Heitz wrote:
> Don't book more people than rooms.
> If a booked person doesn't show, let the hotel charge that person a cancellation fee to cover revenue lost due to empty rooms.
>
> --
> Jakob Heitz.
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 6:28 AM, "John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>
>>> Don't bump anyone.  Apply a cancelation fee.
>>
>> Not an option.  If the hotel has more people than rooms, they have to bump someone, and there's no way to force a person who's checked into a room out of it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
>> "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.
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