Re: Who raised the bar? [Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels]

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Tue, 06 September 2011 22:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Who raised the bar? [Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels]
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On 2011-09-07 00:01, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 2011-09-07 09:35, Ted Hardie wrote:
> ...
>> My personal opinion for some time has been that we ought to recognize that
>> the previous PS moved into "WG draft" years ago and that anything named an
>> RFC should be recognized as something that market will consider a standard.
>
> And who raised the bar? It wasn't the IESG, it was the market, and more
> specifically the product managers and IT managers who adopted RFC conformance
> as their criterion.
>
> I'm a bit fed up with the IESG being blamed for this, rather than being
> congratulated on adapting to it.
> ...

Well, if that's really what happened, then 
draft-housley-two-maturity-levels seems to solve the wrong problem.

Best regards, Julian