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Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Tue, 06 September 2011 23:53 UTC

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On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:

> but it means we are changing out a standard that doesn't accurately reflect what we do now for one that doesn't accurately reflect what we will do.  

Yup.   And IMO we're better off with the old incorrect statement than a new one.  At least with the current situation a great many people know how things work.

Keith

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