Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

Dave CROCKER <dcrocker@bbiw.net> Wed, 07 July 2010 15:36 UTC

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On 7/7/2010 8:32 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 07.07.2010 17:10, Dave CROCKER wrote:
>> ...
>> Right. Personally, I think it's fine to include a normative reference to
>> something jotted down on a napkin. So I don't understand the fuss about
>> citing Internet-Drafts.
>> ...
>
> As long as the napkin has got a URI stable enough to be accepted by the RFC
> Editor...


As long as it doesn't require emotional stability, that seems reasonable.

But come to think of it, what is 'stable enough'?

Anything that Eric deems reasonable?  At that brief moment in time?

d/

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   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
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