Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

[[e-mail] (Scott O. Bradner)]

Phillip politely says
> I think this is nonsense.
> We have been discussing this for over a decade. Time for debate is up. It is
> time to make a decision.

since I see no reason to think that the proposed changes will do 
anything at all to address any of the problems that I, and others, have
brought up (incuding the 'nothing progresses' problem) I have decided

I see no reason that we should make a change that is very likely to 
not fix any known problem just because we have been talking about 
various ideas for change for a long time - length of debate is not
an indication of usefulness of solution

it would not be the end of the IETF if this gets published but
it will also not be the begining of a better IETF - all of the 
problems will still be there and we would have a meaningless change 
just so we can say we made a change

Scott