Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter
Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Tue, 04 September 2018 17:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter
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Hi Niel, I don’t disagree with the answers, but the URL you sent is for the Thai Embassy in Finland, not Washington DC. Thanks! Ben. > On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> wrote: > > Toerless, > > I'm with you on this. > > The Royal Thai Embassy Washington D.C. informational web page states that visiting Thailand for the following requires a tourist visa: > > 2.1 Participating in meetings, conferences or seminars > > 2.2 Attending exhibitions or trade shows > > 2.3 Visiting businesses or having business meetings > > The URL is http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html <http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html> > > Regards, > > ----------------------------- > Niel Harper > Director, NGL & Fellowships > Internet Society > 11710 Plaza America Drive > Reston, VA 20190 > Email: harper@isoc.org <mailto:harper@isoc.org> > Skype: OlokunBB > Follow us on Twitter @ISOC_NextGen <https://twitter.com/ISOC_NextGen <https://twitter.com/ISOC_NextGen>> > > On 9/4/18, 9:18 AM, "103attendees on behalf of Toerless Eckert" <103attendees-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:103attendees-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>> wrote: > > Balazs, > > I will simply print out: > > https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/ > (thanks Andy!) > > and go to Thailand as a tourist and mark that field in any > immigration form. If asked by a border agents, i will > say that i am attending the IETF103 technical conference. If > asked how that is tourism, i will pull the printout. > > Also check if you can get to this TIMATIC page, you may need an > account at united, else check your own airline: > > https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/ > > When i entered hungarian data, it also showed that one does not need a > visa. > > I did similarily to you for IETF Buenos Aires ask consulates in > USA/Germany what i would need to enter the country when i attend a conference, > and they could not figure it out, so they recommended me a business > visa. Through the discussion on the IETF mailing list (thanks Mehmet) > i also came to recognize that i am not doing business when i am attending > a conference (no money involved). Just that Argentina didn't have a > good web page like that above one from the Thailand ministry. But > i also went to IETF Buenos Aires fine as a tourist. Like probably most > everybody else attending IETF and who is visa exempt as a tourist. > > Thats just me. No recommendation what you or anybody else should do. > You'll have to figure out yourself how much useless paper work you need in your life. > There is still enough time to get an invitation letter from IETF and > retry to visa if thats what you want to do. > > Cheers > Toerless > > On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 10:29:55AM +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote: > > Hello, > > > > This morning the Embassy of Thailand rejected my visa application as they > > found the invitation letter lacking. They sent me a 23 page template in Thai > > language that the invitation letter should follow. > > > > Have you had similar problems? > > > > regards Balazs > > > > -- > > Balazs Lengyel Ericsson Hungary Ltd. > > Senior Specialist > > Mobile: +36-70-330-7909 email: Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 102attendees mailing list > > 102attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/102attendees > > -- > --- > tte@cs.fau.de > > -- > 103attendees mailing list > 103attendees@ietf.org <mailto:103attendees@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/103attendees <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/103attendees> > > _______________________________________________ > 102attendees mailing list > 102attendees@ietf.org <mailto:102attendees@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/102attendees <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/102attendees>
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