Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Tue, 04 September 2018 17:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter
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Hi Niel,

I don’t disagree with the answers, but the URL you sent is for the Thai Embassy in Finland, not Washington DC.

Thanks!

Ben.

> On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> Toerless,
> 
> I'm with you on this.
> 
> The Royal Thai Embassy Washington D.C. informational web page states that visiting Thailand for the following requires a tourist visa:
> 
>             2.1 Participating in meetings, conferences or seminars
> 
>             2.2  Attending exhibitions or trade shows
> 
>             2.3 Visiting businesses or having business meetings
> 
> The URL is http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html <http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html>
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -----------------------------
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> Director, NGL & Fellowships
> Internet Society
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> On 9/4/18, 9:18 AM, "103attendees on behalf of Toerless Eckert" <103attendees-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:103attendees-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of tte@cs.fau.de <mailto:tte@cs.fau.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Balazs,
> 
>     I will simply print out:
> 
>     https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/
>     (thanks Andy!)
> 
>     and go to Thailand as a tourist and mark that field in any
>     immigration form. If asked by a border agents, i will
>     say that i am attending the IETF103 technical conference. If
>     asked how that is tourism, i will pull the printout.
> 
>     Also check if you can get to this TIMATIC page, you may need an
>     account at united, else check your own airline:
> 
>     https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/
> 
>     When i entered hungarian data, it also showed that one does not need a
>     visa.
> 
>     I did similarily to you for IETF Buenos Aires ask consulates in
>     USA/Germany what i would need to enter the country when i attend a conference,
>     and they could not figure it out, so they recommended me a business
>     visa. Through the discussion on the IETF mailing list (thanks Mehmet)
>     i also came to recognize that i am not doing business when i am attending
>     a conference (no money involved). Just that Argentina didn't have a
>     good web page like that above one from the Thailand ministry. But
>     i also went to IETF Buenos Aires fine as a tourist. Like probably most
>     everybody else attending IETF and who is visa exempt as a tourist.
> 
>     Thats just me. No recommendation what you or anybody else should do.
>     You'll have to figure out yourself how much useless paper work you need in your life.
>     There is still enough time to get an invitation letter from IETF and
>     retry to visa if thats what you want to do.
> 
>     Cheers
>         Toerless
> 
>     On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 10:29:55AM +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote:
>     > Hello,
>     >
>     > This morning the Embassy of Thailand rejected my visa application as they
>     > found the invitation letter lacking. They sent me a 23 page template in Thai
>     > language that the invitation letter should follow.
>     >
>     > Have you had similar problems?
>     >
>     > regards Balazs
>     >
>     > --
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