Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 06 September 2018 10:55 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Tobias Fiebig <T.Fiebig@tudelft.nl>
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Thanks, Tobias

sounds like:

"We have Type-B visa to sell, don't expect us to tell you about
 these free 'visa wwaiver' products from the competition
 that have us fear about our jobs"

Cheers
    Toerless

On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 10:48:16AM +0000, Tobias Fiebig wrote:
> Hello Toerless,
> The consulate, actually. I called them yesterday and they were like "Type-B!". Then, after some research, I wrote a mail asking them again (citing businesseventsthailand and the Helsinki embassy) which lead to a rather shroff response of "we already told you that you need a type b".
> 
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>  
> Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig,
> Assistant Professor / Universitair Docent
> Department Engineering Systems and Services
> 
> Informatie- en Communicatie Technologie (ICT)
>  
> TU Delft / Dept. ESS
> Faculty of Technology, Policy and Management (TBM)
> Building 31
> Jaffalaan 5 - room B3.170
> 2628 BX  Delft
> P.O.Box 5015
> 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands
> T +31 (0)15 27 85700
> E  t.fiebig@tudelft.nl
> 
> Present: Monday t/m Friday
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 11:34 AM
> To: Tobias Fiebig <T.Fiebig@tudelft.nl>
> Cc: 102attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter
> 
> Tobias:
> 
> How does Amsterdam (Thai embassy ?) "insist" that you need a Type-B visa ?
> E.g.: what exactly did they tell you ? Just the usual "if you do business you need a busienss visa" that Jake mentioned ?
> 
> Maybe fill out the form on:
> 
> https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/about-us/contact-us/
> 
> and tell them you want to attend a conference in thailand and your embassy is giving you answers that are different from what TCEb writes in its web page:
> 
> https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/
> 
> Cheers
>     Toerless
> 
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 08:41:34AM +0000, Tobias Fiebig wrote:
> > Heho,
> > I am currently facing the same issue (German passport). The consulate in Amsterdam insists that I need a Type-B visa, and requests a full range of documents about TU Delft (full financial report of the last year, overview of employees etc., signed and sealed by the executive board of TU Delft, including copies of their passports). In addition, from the company that is employing me in Thailand (I presume that this means THNic), they also want a copy of the passport of the person signing the LOI in addition to the LOI, signed and sealed financial reports of the current year, official registration, list of employees etc.
> > 
> > I opened a case with IETF registrar for this, and hope to figure this out before the meeting. 
> > 
> > However, would it maybe be possible that THNic tries to find some authoritative information on the needed visa type?
> > 
> > Met vriendelijke groet,
> >  
> > Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig,
> > Assistant Professor / Universitair Docent Department Engineering 
> > Systems and Services
> > 
> > Informatie- en Communicatie Technologie (ICT)
> >  
> > TU Delft / Dept. ESS
> > Faculty of Technology, Policy and Management (TBM) Building 31 
> > Jaffalaan 5 - room B3.170
> > 2628 BX  Delft
> > P.O.Box 5015
> > 2600 GA Delft, The Netherlands
> > T +31 (0)15 27 85700
> > E  t.fiebig@tudelft.nl
> > 
> > Present: Monday t/m Friday
> > 
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