Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter

Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> Tue, 04 September 2018 17:57 UTC

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From: Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org>
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
CC: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>, "103attendees@ietf.org" <103attendees@ietf.org>, 102attendees <102attendees@ietf.org>
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Hello Ben,

 

I recognized that after the fact.

 

I was directed to that URL because the Thai Embassy in DC doesn’t provide a lot of detailed information about visas.

 

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Niel Harper

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Email: harper@isoc.org

Skype: OlokunBB

 

Follow us on Twitter @ISOC_NextGen

 

 

From: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 1:48 PM
To: Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org>
Cc: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>, "103attendees@ietf.org" <103attendees@ietf.org>, 102attendees <102attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter

 

Hi Niel,

 

I don’t disagree with the answers, but the URL you sent is for the Thai Embassy in Finland, not Washington DC.

 

Thanks!

 

Ben.



On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> wrote:

 

Toerless,

 

I'm with you on this.

 

The Royal Thai Embassy Washington D.C. informational web page states that visiting Thailand for the following requires a tourist visa:

 

            2.1 Participating in meetings, conferences or seminars

 

            2.2  Attending exhibitions or trade shows

 

            2.3 Visiting businesses or having business meetings

 

The URL is http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html

 

Regards,

 

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Niel Harper

Director, NGL & Fellowships

Internet Society

11710 Plaza America Drive

Reston, VA 20190

Email: harper@isoc.org

Skype: OlokunBB

Follow us on Twitter @ISOC_NextGen <https://twitter.com/ISOC_NextGen>

 

On 9/4/18, 9:18 AM, "103attendees on behalf of Toerless Eckert" <103attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

 

    Balazs,

    

    I will simply print out: 

    

    https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/

    (thanks Andy!)

    

    and go to Thailand as a tourist and mark that field in any

    immigration form. If asked by a border agents, i will

    say that i am attending the IETF103 technical conference. If

    asked how that is tourism, i will pull the printout.

    

    Also check if you can get to this TIMATIC page, you may need an

    account at united, else check your own airline:

    

    https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/

    

    When i entered hungarian data, it also showed that one does not need a

    visa.

    

    I did similarily to you for IETF Buenos Aires ask consulates in

    USA/Germany what i would need to enter the country when i attend a conference,

    and they could not figure it out, so they recommended me a business

    visa. Through the discussion on the IETF mailing list (thanks Mehmet)

    i also came to recognize that i am not doing business when i am attending

    a conference (no money involved). Just that Argentina didn't have a

    good web page like that above one from the Thailand ministry. But

    i also went to IETF Buenos Aires fine as a tourist. Like probably most

    everybody else attending IETF and who is visa exempt as a tourist.

    

    Thats just me. No recommendation what you or anybody else should do.

    You'll have to figure out yourself how much useless paper work you need in your life. 

    There is still enough time to get an invitation letter from IETF and

    retry to visa if thats what you want to do.

    

    Cheers

        Toerless

    

    On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 10:29:55AM +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote:

    > Hello,

    > 

    > This morning the Embassy of Thailand rejected my visa application as they

    > found the invitation letter lacking. They sent me a 23 page template in Thai

    > language that the invitation letter should follow.

    > 

    > Have you had similar problems?

    > 

    > regards Balazs

    > 

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