Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter
Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> Tue, 04 September 2018 17:57 UTC
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From: Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org>
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Hello Ben, I recognized that after the fact. I was directed to that URL because the Thai Embassy in DC doesn’t provide a lot of detailed information about visas. Regards, ----------------------------- Niel Harper Director, NGL & Fellowships Internet Society 11710 Plaza America Drive Reston, VA 20190 Email: harper@isoc.org Skype: OlokunBB Follow us on Twitter @ISOC_NextGen From: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 1:48 PM To: Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> Cc: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>, "103attendees@ietf.org" <103attendees@ietf.org>, 102attendees <102attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter Hi Niel, I don’t disagree with the answers, but the URL you sent is for the Thai Embassy in Finland, not Washington DC. Thanks! Ben. On Sep 4, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Niel Harper <harper@isoc.org> wrote: Toerless, I'm with you on this. The Royal Thai Embassy Washington D.C. informational web page states that visiting Thailand for the following requires a tourist visa: 2.1 Participating in meetings, conferences or seminars 2.2 Attending exhibitions or trade shows 2.3 Visiting businesses or having business meetings The URL is http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html Regards, ----------------------------- Niel Harper Director, NGL & Fellowships Internet Society 11710 Plaza America Drive Reston, VA 20190 Email: harper@isoc.org Skype: OlokunBB Follow us on Twitter @ISOC_NextGen <https://twitter.com/ISOC_NextGen> On 9/4/18, 9:18 AM, "103attendees on behalf of Toerless Eckert" <103attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: Balazs, I will simply print out: https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/ (thanks Andy!) and go to Thailand as a tourist and mark that field in any immigration form. If asked by a border agents, i will say that i am attending the IETF103 technical conference. If asked how that is tourism, i will pull the printout. Also check if you can get to this TIMATIC page, you may need an account at united, else check your own airline: https://www.businesseventsthailand.com/plan-your-events/general-travel-information/visa-requirements/ When i entered hungarian data, it also showed that one does not need a visa. I did similarily to you for IETF Buenos Aires ask consulates in USA/Germany what i would need to enter the country when i attend a conference, and they could not figure it out, so they recommended me a business visa. Through the discussion on the IETF mailing list (thanks Mehmet) i also came to recognize that i am not doing business when i am attending a conference (no money involved). Just that Argentina didn't have a good web page like that above one from the Thailand ministry. But i also went to IETF Buenos Aires fine as a tourist. Like probably most everybody else attending IETF and who is visa exempt as a tourist. Thats just me. No recommendation what you or anybody else should do. You'll have to figure out yourself how much useless paper work you need in your life. There is still enough time to get an invitation letter from IETF and retry to visa if thats what you want to do. Cheers Toerless On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 10:29:55AM +0200, Balazs Lengyel wrote: > Hello, > > This morning the Embassy of Thailand rejected my visa application as they > found the invitation letter lacking. They sent me a 23 page template in Thai > language that the invitation letter should follow. > > Have you had similar problems? > > regards Balazs > > -- > Balazs Lengyel Ericsson Hungary Ltd. > Senior Specialist > Mobile: +36-70-330-7909 email: Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com > > _______________________________________________ > 102attendees mailing list > 102attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/102attendees -- --- tte@cs.fau.de -- 103attendees mailing list 103attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/103attendees _______________________________________________ 102attendees mailing list 102attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/102attendees
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