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Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH

Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> Wed, 24 July 2019 11:36 UTC

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From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:36:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Add] fixing coffee shop brokenness with DoH
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I can do that but the user base we represent at CDT cannot. So not an
answer.

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 07:33 Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are really worried about it, run your own.  I do, and have for 25+
> years.
>
> Bret
>
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> On Jul 24, 2019, at 6:19 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 22:26 Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas=
> 40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> > Are people selling DNS logs to ad tech companies? Is that the ecosystem
>> being disrupted?
>>
>> Given how many valid points have been brought up in the last few weeks
>> about the drawbacks of centralized app-configured DNS, I don’t think the
>> glib tone is constructive.
>>
>
> Tone aside, to some users, centralization is a benefit in that they don't
> have a bunch of unknown privacy policies applying to the resolution of the
> names they need. For example, the privacy policy of 1.1.1.1 is pretty
> amazing from the perspective of data retention, secondary uses, etc. (e.g.,
> I know my resolutions will be removed from their logs within 24 hours).
>
> This may seem small but it seems to be lost in the centralization/choice
> discussion.
>
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