Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt

On 04-Sep-21 10:23, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I think "should not discuss" and that list are too high
> or the wrong barrier. I reckon it'd take some discussion to
> get that right. I don't object to trying to get it right, but
> would object to the current text.
> 
> As an example, it seems to me entirely fine to (carefully:-) discuss the 
> fact that a thing(*) is unencumbered as far as
> we know and how that affects implementations that might use
> that thing, especially those taking an open source approach.

Sorry, which of the bullets in section 5 says we should not discuss that? We have specific non-BCP guidance about that sort of discussion in RFC3699.

   Brian

> 
> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> (*) s/thing/codec/ or s/thing/encryption alg/ both work with
> differences.
> 
> On 03/09/2021 23:07, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Thankyou for this draft. Assuming the question will be put, I strongly support dispatching it ASAP as an individual submission sponsored by the General AD.
>>
>> I have one suggestion. The Recommendations very correctly list 'product pricing' as a forbidden topic. That should probably be 'product and service pricing'. However, a topic of technical importance in service provision is *metrics* used for measuring services. I think the draft could usefully discuss the dividing line between technical specifications of metrics (OK), mechanisms for communicating metrics (OK), mechanisms for communicating pricing of metrics (presumably OK), worked examples with example monetary values (presumably OK) and actual monetary values (not OK).
>>
>> FYA: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-carpenter-metrics-00
>>
>> Regards
>>     Brian Carpenter
>>
>> On 31-Aug-21 13:42, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>>
>>>
>>>          Title           : Antitrust Guidelines for IETF Particiants
>>>          Authors         : Joel M. Halpern
>>>                            Brad Biddle
>>>                            Jay Daley
>>> 	Filename        : draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt
>>> 	Pages           : 6
>>> 	Date            : 2021-08-30
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>     This document provides guidance for IETF participants on compliance
>>>     with antitrust laws and how to reduce antitrust risks in connection
>>>     with IETF activities.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
>>>
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>>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.html
>>>
>>>
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