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Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 04 September 2021 02:43 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:43:21 -0700
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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt
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Yes, Brian,

To rephrase: are the lawyers saying such a "guideline" in an IETF BCP would
be legally helpful to IETF participants?

thanks,
Rob

On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 7:20 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> > If so, maybe the lawyers should write the draft.
>
> Brad Biddle is a co-author.
>
> Regards
>    Brian
>
> On 04-Sep-21 13:04, Rob Sayre wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:09 PM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com
> <mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     We wrote this as guidelines, not rules, because there are always some
> >     edge cases.
> >
> >     But that list (which you quote below) is I think the list almost
> every
> >     lawyer I have talked to about this gave me to start with.
> >
> >
> > Are you saying lawyers told you such a "guideline" in an IETF BCP would
> be legally helpful to IETF participants? If so, maybe the lawyers should
> write the draft.
> >
> > In the past, as you write below, I think the advice has recommended
> "talking to your own lawyer".
> >
> >
> >       If you are
> >     talking about any of those things, you need to be VERY careful.
> Which
> >     is also why we suggest talking to your own lawyer if you are going to
> >     venture into those spaces.
> >
> >
> > This kind of thing has been discussed many times before. Here's an old
> one:
> >
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/antitrust-policy/GLvb1NlwrixB9CupSncPBmVa4ho/
> <
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/antitrust-policy/GLvb1NlwrixB9CupSncPBmVa4ho/
> >
> >
> > What has changed, and why should this be a BCP? Just trying to
> understand why this change is happening now.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Rob
> >
> >
>
>

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