Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Mon, 15 February 2021 17:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
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Fernando,

> On Feb 14, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
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> On 14/2/21 14:46, Bob Hinden wrote:
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>> I agree.
>> I also think that diversity in the IETF and language in RFCs are mostly different topics.
>> Diversity in the IETF is about who participates in the IETF, increasing participation in the IETF, etc.    RFCs are used by a much broader Internet community that the folks who participate in the IETF.
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> Focusing on this, while ignoring the rest, reads a lot like "let's be nice in our documents while we keep people excluded from participating" to me.

No, not at all.    I think I was clear to say they are different topics.  I did not say anything like you suggested, that is:

  "let's be nice in our documents while we keep people excluded from participating"

We should be working on both topics separately.

Bob


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> I'm curious if I'm the only one that finds it awkward (?) that what seems to be a group of (probably 100%) privileged white people from developed countries think their are doing a favor to people of different skin color, with none from said community participating, and none of the things that probably caused said group to be under-represented are even in the agenda to be addressed?
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> Thanks,
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> Fernando Gont
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