Re: [Gendispatch] revised

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Tue, 23 February 2021 21:26 UTC

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On 2/23/21 12:44 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>
>       * I don’t look at it that way. I see it as the organization
>         recognizing that it has had some blind spots and is working to
>         address them, so that more traditionally-under-represented
>         people participate. (Once they participate, of course, they
>         should get treated the same as everyone else. I hope that goes
>         without saying.)
>
>
>   You don't actually address my statement, you just bring up a vaguery
> ("blind spots") and state your aspirational goals ("so that more
> traditionally-under-represented people participate").
>
> I was trying to say that my view was focused on the organization 
> correcting things it thought were wrong, whereas your view seems to be 
> focused on how individuals are treated.
>

   It's important to remember the things that get snipped out
in replies like this. The issue under discussion is whether race
should be the sole factor to consider (initially).

   Can you make the case for race being the primary factor to
consider?

   Dan.

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