Re: Terminology discussion threads

[Bob Hinden <[e-mail]>]

If anyone has feedback on the current leadership, please let the NomCom know.  See:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2020/

According to this page, they will be asking for feedback on

	Wednesday, October 14, 2020: Call for community feedback

Bob


> On Aug 13, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Nico Williams <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 01:27:31PM -0400, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
>> I consider this an abuse of your presumed authority
> 
> The IETF has been abusing its SAA function these past few years.
> Download the list archive and search for posts by the SAA and the
> reactions to them over the past two years and you should see at least to
> previous incidents where the SAA went beyond its remit.  We also had an
> AD who very inappropriately doubled as SAA -- those who serve as SAAs
> should not serve in any other leadership capacity, and this should be a
> hard rule.
> 
> The pattern seems to be that once the SAA crosses the line the community
> chastises the SAA and then the SAA goes quiet for a year or so.  This
> means that every time the SAA goes beyond its remit the SAA function
> loses authority and ceases to function effectively.  Now having three
> examples of this, might the SAA will learn their lesson finally?  Or
> maybe since they insist on misbehaving, the SAA staff should be
> replaced.
> 
>> in no way should an expression of disapproval of an IESG action be
>> considered as a continuation of the discussion that caused the IESG
>> action
> 
> It's rather unseemly, isn't it, to allow expressions of approval and
> disallow expressions of disapproval.  Either the very first expression
> of approval should have met with SAA action on account of the Chair's
> silence! order, or no expressions of disapproval of the Chair's order
> should have met with SAA action.  At most only continued debate should
> have met with SAA action.
> 
> Nico
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