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Re: Terminology discussion threads

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Thu, 13 August 2020 19:57 UTC

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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 8/13/20 3:53 PM, David Schinazi wrote:

> I plan to send feedback thanking our
> leadership for making this hard call. The IETF does a good chunk
> of our work on mailing lists, and ensuring those lists are productive,
> professional and non-toxic is paramount to the success of the IETF.

And I intend to send feedback to noncom arguing that the IETF leadership 
has dealt with this issue in an extremely unproductive and 
unprofessional manner, and thereby increased toxicity of IETF and done 
tremendous harm to its traditional culture of consensus-building and 
inclusion (imperfect though it may be)

Keith

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