Re: Terminology discussion threads

S Moonesamy <sm@+ietfelandsys.com> Wed, 19 August 2020 00:26 UTC

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:26:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: Terminology discussion threads
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Dear Mr Daley,
At 01:33 PM 18-08-2020, Jay Daley wrote:
>I think you are well aware that this was a mistake that was swiftly corrected
>
><https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/xMoaLSjq30gxPK4cbqfjAMyJzlM/>https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/xMoaLSjq30gxPK4cbqfjAMyJzlM/
>
>I think you are are also well aware that we offered unlimited fee 
>waivers for IETF 108.

I was surprised by the support on that thread.  I did not take up the 
offer.  I did not use any backdoor even if it was technically 
possible to do so.

>While both of those had significant missteps on the way, the end 
>result was a meeting that anyone could participate in and therefore 
>your description of the situation is far from accurate.

The point was that subscribers can send emails to ietf@ to express 
their opinion on issues which may not be apparent.  It would be 
interesting to compare the list of people who commented about the 
so-called "waiver" with the list of people who believe in "inclusiveness".

Regards,
S. Moonesamy