Re: Terminology discussion threads

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Thu, 13 August 2020 20:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: Terminology discussion threads
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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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On 8/13/2020 3:48 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> At least there seems to be sufficient +1 from distinguished community
> members such as current or past IAB, IESG members, IAB Liaison, IETF ISOC
> appointee, IRTF and NomCom chair to hope that the action taken was rightfully
> within the privilege of IETF chair according to the rules.

Mike StJohns, Past IAB, Past Nomcom Chair
Scott Bradner, Past IAB, Past Area Director
Randy Bush, Past Area Director
Charlie Perkins,  Past IAB

(sorry if I've missed other roles...)

So what's your point?

In any event, my opinion is that this action was NOT taken "rightfully 
within the privilege of the IETF chair according to the rules", but I'm 
withholding further judgement until the Chair responds to my request to 
clarify which part of 3005 they believe applies and grants authority for 
a mass PR threat.

>
> If this step was ultimately determined (by whom... ?) not to be within
> the privilege of IETF chair then i am bit worried about what i would
> have to think about all those +1.

I'm not sure why.  Everyone has opinions.  Some are more useful than 
others, and each of us will have an opinion on that topic as well.


Later, Mike