Re: Terminology discussion threads
Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Sat, 15 August 2020 13:24 UTC
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On 8/14/20 3:52 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > You're quite right that "prominent" is poorly chosen; my apologies and > thank you for noting it. > > I was attempting to use it as a shorthand to convey two parallel concerns: > > - if the people who think that their leaving is noteworthy are leaving, who > else is leaving for the same reasons but not bothering to make an > announcement? > > - if the experts on a given topic (the "people who wrote the book", if you > will forgive the expression) are not in the room, how do we know that the > right people have looked at a given topic/issue/question to ensure that the > details of that topic have been fully considered? > > I do recognize that this last point bears significant similarity to your > comment about "community members whose opinions are more important than > others", but in this case I think my concerns can be characterized more as > regarding the breadth of expertise available rather than giving particular > enhanced weight to the opinions of some community members in the abstract. > The first point serves to augment the concerns, of course. I guess while we do not believe in kings, presidents, and voting we most definitely do have a nomenklatura. Dan. p.s. I think if you polled the lesser members of the IETF you'd find a few published authors-- i.e. "people who wrote the book."
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