IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: Last Call: <draft-farrresnickel-harassment-05.txt> (IETF Anti-Harassment Procedures) to Best Current Practice

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 March 2015 15:13 UTC

Return-Path: <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F221A8756; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PhhAx-yFiQLy; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:54 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF1F31A8773; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by labmn12 with SMTP id mn12so16512637lab.8; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=m/7CuDnMrFVeO/8UZ3IcEMsTnpq/IHWXD53R8UcjJs0=; b=QDzzUDoKWn5oRvxy+sDF0gHNpY/18hqk7G7QBTXy/7XO5O96VYS49Q2zK1GSEBPbCl swoeykBRUS0k3Kwd8RSdxcBeTdLunuDkv/0URn+ErjW5+1t1VQw43ZwHUQdwtLXBNX7w YRHcwEL5vhjpYYsnkobio3tIA1I92z+L5hKOyo3mcgxcmkVQtS6YGr5di4BFHbbj7Qxp 9gTSR3z1OCIpdvUz/bvBQWdD0JFozhvsHMNuqAS/hKrJnFsaG3QcbN6iZe+8U8v7GQ5j r6RmVSMXUlprOmuYMf3sMw9OlhdMsN9DvUN4ySJ+Y3zGC9eTGNf0yxGoiT7X4E2F0Nob bX6A==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.112.155.65 with SMTP id vu1mr10182811lbb.61.1426173232392; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.152.129.193 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.152.129.193 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <5501AC68.6000304@cs.tcd.ie>
References: <20150116152211.25947.49086.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20150117174430.9A0471ACE15@ietfa.amsl.com> <20150306163724.GA32205@verdi> <tsl385im2yp.fsf@mit.edu> <781553AA-EA2C-4057-9888-491C80A780DA@piuha.net> <54FE045D.3080606@qti.qualcomm.com> <tslr3sxep1l.fsf@mit.edu> <54FE6297.4090008@qti.qualcomm.com> <tslzj7i2wid.fsf@mit.edu> <55019E72.4090004@qti.qualcomm.com> <tslfv9a2t6p.fsf@mit.edu> <36671C44-DE53-4AC9-B8EA-465BF97B2FDB@piuha.net> <CAKKJt-e27Xv1v20dc_q1U-B7C1-TjMtFkYPEqCSs2dBkdtfqBg@mail.gmail.com> <5501AC68.6000304@cs.tcd.ie>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:13:52 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKKJt-d4J2_h5ANFQ33p3CgDVmzQbFNEk0v8DNZytZbZcFRXzA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-farrresnickel-harassment-05.txt> (IETF Anti-Harassment Procedures) to Best Current Practice
From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e01183042e7b285051118d4bc"
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/RNJYuT5l5Ox0jIEPq9WVQTRxd_A>
Cc: Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com>, Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>, iesg@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:13:55 -0000

On Mar 12, 2015 10:10 AM, "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On 12/03/15 15:01, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
> > I look forward to understanding what people think better than I do
today.
>
> FWIW, I think we made the correct call in terms of keeping two
> different bits of process (ombudsteam and recalls) separated,
> but also accept that that might look entirely wrong to those
> outside the IESG, and I think we should take Sam's concern
> seriously as input on that.

Exactly. And said better than I tried to say it.

> So better wording would be good, and if that needs another LC
> to get community input on it, then that's ok too if we can
> constrain that additional LC to the things that have changed.
>
> S.
>
> PS: I've yet to properly read Dave's review, so not sure if
> there's stuff there that needs to be similarly addressed.

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email