Re: Sam's text and way forward on the last call of draft-farrresnickel-harassment-05.txt

[Stephen Farrell <[e-mail]>]

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On 19/03/15 10:03, Jari Arkko wrote:
>> new: The Ombudsteam MAY ask a respondent to consider resigning
>> from an IETF management position.  The Ombudsteam May remove a
>> respondent from a working group  or document editor position.
>> While this document does not create additional procedures
>> permitting a nomcom appointee be removed, the Ombudsteam can
>> exclude a respondent from meetings and mailing lists and other
>> activities, making it impossible for them to carry out their
>> appointed tasks.

I'm quite uneasy with us saying that the Ombudsteam may remove
editors or similar, and especially with us saying that but not
saying how it might be done in practice. I also think we ought
not be so focused on remedies that involve role-changes, since
I think less dramatic remedies will be far more common (or I
hope so).

I'd therefore suggest we focus more on what the Ombudsteam are
allowed to communicate, so I'd suggest:

NEW new:

"
The Ombudsteam MAY ask a respondent to consider resigning from an IETF
management position or from a working group  or document editor
position.

To the extent required in order to ensure a remedy in encforced, the
Ombudsteam are allowed to (where absolutely necessary) reveal some
details of their investigation. In doing so, the Ombudstream must
only reveal details that the Subject or Reporter agree may be
revealed. The intent here is to allow the Ombudsteam flexibility
in how they get remedies enforced - in practice, in order to
enforce some remedies whilst preserving as much confidentiality
as possible, (in particular for a Subject) the Ombudsteam may need
to convince someone not involved in the situation that e.g. a change
in role or organisation is needed.

While this document does
not create additional procedures permitting a nomcom appointee be
removed, the Ombudsteam can exclude a respondent from meetings and
mailing lists and other activities, making it impossible for them to
carry out their appointed tasks.

"

I'd be fine with any wordsmithed version of the above that avoids
getting into too much mechanical detail.

Cheers,
S.
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