Re: Adoption Call for "The IPv6 Compact Routing Header (CRH)"

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Thu, 21 May 2020 20:37 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Ketan Talaulikar <ketant@cisco.com>
CC: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, IPv6 List <ipv6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Adoption Call for "The IPv6 Compact Routing Header (CRH)"
Thread-Topic: Adoption Call for "The IPv6 Compact Routing Header (CRH)"
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Hi Ketan,

On May 21, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) <ketant=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:ketant=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
...
*  Is the purpose of the draft sufficiently clear?

KT> The purpose is not clear since the new IPv6 Source Routing solution claimed by the authors is not documented in the draft in terms of its applicability, use-cases and requirements.

[and this text is repeated in your conclusion]

Ron did respond to this complaint in a reply to Darren Dukes on May 14 (see https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipv6/OG3XDVKUYVYaLP3F2T6E1NK3uOQ/), offering some draft text and asking

"If I were to add the following sections to the draft, would they address your concern. If not, what else is needed? Please be specific.”

If you haven’t reviewed his proposed text, please do. If you have, and if it doesn’t address your concerns, it seems you should offer something more specific than “not documented in the draft”.

Regards,

—John