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Re: reception not useful for WG chairs

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Tue, 14 May 2019 04:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 05:18:53 +0100
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Exactly why I raised the point.

The main sync up happens immediately after, but it’s a lot easier for the chairs and ADs to find each other in the smaller crowd of the pre-meeting than in the main social.

Stewart

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> On 14 May 2019, at 02:14, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> 
> There are a lot of logistics items that should typically be more of
> interest to WG-chairs/ADs to allow contributors to be more focussed
> on technology.
> 
> As Chris said, no such meeting needs (or IMHO should) be closed doors,
> just a bit more structure might be helpfull.
> 
>> On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Benoit Claise wrote:
>> The issue I have with the entire discussion is that it focuses solely on the
>> WG chairs wanting to discuss with ADs during the week-end.
>> Let's not forget it's equally important for the community to synch up with
>> their WG chairs (and ADs as well).
>> The only solution (without multiplying meetings) is that the community + WG
>> chairs + ADs attend the welcome reception.
>> 
>> Regards, Benoit
>>> Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> wrote:
>>>>> We could tether the ADs to tables distributed around the reception room such
>>>>> that they were easier to find, and wouldn't clump together.  That's what made
>>>>> the newcomer's space so useful for WG chairs.
>>> 
>>>> And it wasn't just the ADs, in general unless a chair was off talking
>>>> to an inter-area AD, you could also easily find other chairs in
>>>> not-your-area.
>>> 
>>>> As far as a "another closed meeting" (mentioned elsewhere), it wouldn't
>>>> *have* to be closed. Just having leadership grouped and easily findable
>>>> is useful. Make it a cash bar instead of free, or if we need to
>>>> incentivize leadership to actually attend (and keep out people just
>>>> looking for free drinks), maybe add a couple drink tickets to the badge
>>>> pickup for leadership.
>>> 
>>> Should we move it to Tuesday night, in place of the off-site "social"?
>>> Could we tether the ADs to couches rather than tables?
>>> 
>>>> Call it a leadership reception or something.
>>> 
>>> Works for me.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>>>  -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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