Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 06 May 2019 17:54 UTC
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Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> wrote: > We have a RG dinner on the Wednesday. And I am under the belief that that WG > chairs meet before that. Aside from a WG chairs lunch, which has been on Wednesdays usually, Tuesday last time, there is not any formal meeting. There has been a WG chairs beer event, historically Wednesday night, but as Fred has said, that hasn't occured for a few meetings. While one might be fortunate to sit near an AD one wants to chat with, many ADs do not have time/energy/etc. to attend the beer event, and even if they all did, it's often too loud and too hard to move around to chat. ADs do hold office hours, and that's something that I think belongs in some of the unstructured time. The goal is for WG chairs to be able to sit down and discuss issues in the WG for a quiet 15 minutes. Unfortunately, this requires the chairs to think, "I should go chat", and this does not usually happen until after the WG has entered into some extreme dysfunction. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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- reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
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- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
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