Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> Thu, 16 May 2019 20:13 UTC
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Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> writes: >> What if we had per-topic/area group-tables? > > That would be a good move, perhaps for just the first part of the reception.. Right, so that's very similar to my minimal change suggestion: - Rename "Newcomers" to "Leadership Reception (open)", convert to cash bar, give leadership a couple free drink tickets to incentivize attendance. Thanks, Chris. > > Thanks, --David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Wes Hardaker >> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:31 PM >> To: STARK, BARBARA H >> Cc: 'Working Group Chairs' >> Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs >> >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] >> >> "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> writes: >> >> > The email that told us the newcomers reception would be discontinued >> > said this was because the speed-mentoring session was perceived as >> > being far more valuable/useful and it wasn't necessary to have >> > both. >> >> Yes, and no to the above. Functionally, it was serving two >> purposes: 1) the original purpose: allowing newcomers to meet up with >> chairs and ADs, 2) its transformed purpose: allowing chairs and ADs to >> meet up with chairs and ADs. >> >> It's intended original purpose was #1, and it seems the consensus is >> that #2 is what everyone is saying they're missing with lots of points >> about what the general reception can't be used. However, the problem >> that #1 wasn't meeting it's purpose is mostly unrelated to the >> quick-connections session. The purpose was still not being met, >> regardless. >> >> Here's a turn around question for the crowd: what would it take to make >> the general reception a viable spot to meet and serve the purpose of a >> pre-meeting meet-and-greet with people you need to talk with? What >> could be done other than "throw out everyone I don't need to talk to", >> which I don't think is a viable solution. If it's too loud, what could >> we do? If it's too popular, what if we removed food/drink for the first >> hour (so only the dedicated showed up)? What if we held it in a bigger >> room? What if we had per-topic/area group-tables? What *would* work? >> >> -- >> Wes Hardaker >> USC/ISI
- Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105 Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Gorry (erg)
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Linda Dunbar
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Black, David
- reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Jeffrey Haas
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- RE: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Stewart Bryant
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Loa Andersson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Bob Hinden
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Marc Blanchet
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Salz, Rich
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Pete Resnick
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker