Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org> Tue, 14 May 2019 19:51 UTC
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Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> writes: > ditto. One of the really good things about it is a specific effort to bring new people into the community. The leadership is important, but so is the followership. I use it to meet newcomers (it used to be ones I was mentoring, but that program is no more I'm told) and introduce them to the leadership in working/research groups they are interested in. Absent some means of that, I'm pretty sure newcomers are lost in the hubbub of the meeting, and might never feel empowered to contribute. > As Barbara mentioned elsewhere, they nixed the newcomers reception b/c they had good data that showed it was not useful to newcomers (or much less useful than the speed mentoring was). However, this thread was a spin-off based on recognizing that it *was* effective time use for non-newcomers and that we should try and keep that part around somehow, rather than just saying "use the reception instead". Thanks, Chris. >> On May 14, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I like the newcomers reception. I use it to meet actual newcomers, and to talk to ADs and other w.g. chair. It’s a much better environment for these discussions than the formal welcome reception that follows. That is much bigger and noisier. >> >> The newcomers reception is not perfect (what is?), but it works for me. I hope we continue it, the alternatives are not as good. One of its big values is that is on Sunday before the w.g. meetings start. >> >> Bob >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The fact that there is a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven is an interesting comment on projected traffic volume...
- Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105 Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Gorry (erg)
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Linda Dunbar
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Black, David
- reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Jeffrey Haas
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- RE: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Stewart Bryant
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Loa Andersson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Bob Hinden
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Marc Blanchet
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Salz, Rich
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Pete Resnick
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker