Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105

"Gorry (erg)" <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Sat, 04 May 2019 18:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105
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+1

It seemed for me we sometimes found and encouraged new people - sometime we did not succeed. 

I really think Stewart has a point though, for instance  - it was probably one of the only times to catch-up with other chairs in a reasonably quiet setting ahead of the WG meetings ... and probably one of the few times I said hello to chairs in other areas,  like Stewart ...  although we occasionally exchange emails between IETF meetings, we seldom find ourselves talking with the same people. I did see  value in something like this as bringing together people across different areas. 

I usually found myself having a list of people I needed to see in the social, ahead of WG meetings ... at least for me, that made it a rather different type of time. 

Gorry

> On 4 May 2019, at 16:09, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Whilst that was not its intended purpose, as a venue for the chairs and ADs to find each other before the meeting started and sync up on matters that need to be resolved ahead of the other sessions it was very useful in making the main business of the IETF meeting more successful.
> 
> We ought to acknowledge this benefit and reinstate some equivalent meeting in its place.
> 
> I know that the Sunday social follows but the scale of it makes it much harder to hold the sort of discussion that happened at the meet and greet.
> 
> Stewart
> 
>> On 3 May 2019, at 14:16, Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> We have been reviewing the effectiveness of the Sunday Newcomer's programs as an ongoing process of gathering feedback on the various activities we provide. I want to share that we have decided to discontinue the Newcomer's Meet-and-Greet (at least for a few meetings). 
>> 
>> The Newcomer’s Meet-and-Greet was created to provide IETF Newcomers with an opportunity to mingle with working group chairs and leadership in the hour before the Sunday Welcome Reception. Over the years we've struggled with how to make this program most beneficial to our new meeting participants.. We've wrestled with how to best connect people together, how to manage the crowds and the sometimes deafening noise. But the biggest issue -- one that we've observed repeatedly -- is that participants in the Meet-and-Greet often end up catching up with people they already know rather than mingling with newer attendees. This is an understandable and almost inevitable side effect a large social gathering; however, it makes the program less effective than we'd like. We have discussed this a few times over the years on the wgchairs mailing list. 
>> 
>> By contrast, Newcomers Quick Connections (previously known as Speed Mentoring) has proven to be extremely popular with Newcomers, who report a much higher level of satisfaction with the small mentor-to-newcomer ratio and the structured format. 
>> 
>> If you've never participated in Quick Connections, it works like this: experienced IETFers are matched with small groups of newcomers (ideally in a one-to-one ratio but generally it's been more like three-to-one, as it's challenging to find enough mentors).  Mentors spend five-to-ten minutes with each individual/small group before moving on to another individual/small group. While this is not a lot of time, it is enough to cover the basics (e.g. areas of interest, essential questions). Newcomers emerge from this one-hour session having had real conversations with approximately 5~7 mentors. 
>> 
>> For IETF 105, Quick Connections will move into the time slot previously filled by the Meet-and-Greet. Beverages and light snacks will be served. Pre-registration will be required, and there will be a limit on both newcomers and experienced IETFers in order to maintain the effectiveness of the program. We hope that you will consider participating. The program is extremely rewarding for both mentors and newcomers.