Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 06 May 2019 20:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
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Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: > So what about restoring the initial goal for the Sunday reception, i.e. > connect ... instead of (yeah, I see it coming), having yet another additional > closed meeting. Right, that's why I changed the subject to what I did. Some other things have changed since we started having the Sunday reception as being the first cmte-of-the-whole meeting of the week. Things include the Saturday code-sprint and Saturday/Sunday Hackathon, IEPG on Sunday morning, and the entire EDU team of topics which are no longer only "newcomer" focused. Personally, as an introvert (who knew), I find that by Sunday afternoon I've had more than enough interaction for the day already. And so I've generally disappeared to feed my running addiction, to return only at the end of the reception period. Forever gone, for me, are the days of landing at 10am on Sunday morning and wondering what to do until I can check-in. To be clear, that kind of (unstructured) idle time is what contributes to the highly productive, but usually totally-by-chance hallway/lounge-bar chats. Montreal will again, I expect, be a breakfast-provided-by-IETF, based upon the usual North-American-Hotels-do-not-feed-you. Combined with having the unstructured time at the beginning of the day, and the resulting bit of extra time, I suspect that this will provide for a lot of space-time for ad-hoc discussions. Isn't this what the reception was providing for before? A point of having people standing around with consumables is to reduce their mouths to half-duplex mode, permitting their ears the full bandwidth, and providing a high-turnaround time before they can verbally object. We could tether the ADs to tables distributed around the reception room such that they were easier to find, and wouldn't clump together. That's what made the newcomer's space so useful for WG chairs. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105 Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Gorry (erg)
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Linda Dunbar
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Black, David
- reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Jeffrey Haas
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- RE: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Stewart Bryant
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Loa Andersson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Bob Hinden
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Marc Blanchet
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Salz, Rich
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Pete Resnick
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker