Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 17 May 2019 03:06 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Christian Hopps <chopps@chopps.org>
Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org, Wes Hardaker <wjhns1@hardakers.net>
Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
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On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 04:13:49PM -0400, Christian Hopps wrote: > > Black, David <David.Black@dell.com> writes: > > > > What if we had per-topic/area group-tables? I thought i saw subject signs on tables at a newcomer reception recently. No ? > > That would be a good move, perhaps for just the first part of the reception.. > > Right, so that's very similar to my minimal change suggestion: > > - Rename "Newcomers" to "Leadership Reception (open)", convert to cash bar, give leadership a couple free drink tickets to incentivize attendance. "IETF Q&A Reception (open)" Whats the suggested booze incentive you where thinking of ? Allow leadership to get drunk or "Ask me a question and you may win a booze voucher" ? Cheers Toerless > Thanks, > Chris. > > > > > > Thanks, --David > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Wes Hardaker > > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:31 PM > > > To: STARK, BARBARA H > > > Cc: 'Working Group Chairs' > > > Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs > > > > > > > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > > > > > "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> writes: > > > > > > > The email that told us the newcomers reception would be discontinued > > > > said this was because the speed-mentoring session was perceived as > > > > being far more valuable/useful and it wasn't necessary to have > > > > both. > > > > > > Yes, and no to the above. Functionally, it was serving two > > > purposes: 1) the original purpose: allowing newcomers to meet up with > > > chairs and ADs, 2) its transformed purpose: allowing chairs and ADs to > > > meet up with chairs and ADs. > > > > > > It's intended original purpose was #1, and it seems the consensus is > > > that #2 is what everyone is saying they're missing with lots of points > > > about what the general reception can't be used. However, the problem > > > that #1 wasn't meeting it's purpose is mostly unrelated to the > > > quick-connections session. The purpose was still not being met, > > > regardless. > > > > > > Here's a turn around question for the crowd: what would it take to make > > > the general reception a viable spot to meet and serve the purpose of a > > > pre-meeting meet-and-greet with people you need to talk with? What > > > could be done other than "throw out everyone I don't need to talk to", > > > which I don't think is a viable solution. If it's too loud, what could > > > we do? If it's too popular, what if we removed food/drink for the first > > > hour (so only the dedicated showed up)? What if we held it in a bigger > > > room? What if we had per-topic/area group-tables? What *would* work? > > > > > > -- > > > Wes Hardaker > > > USC/ISI > -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF 105 Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Gorry (erg)
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Linda Dunbar
- RE: Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities for IETF… Black, David
- reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [irsg] reception not useful for WG chairs Jeffrey Haas
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- RE: [IAB] Change in Sunday Newcomer Activities fo… Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Benoit Claise
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Stewart Bryant
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Loa Andersson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Bob Hinden
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Marc Blanchet
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Salz, Rich
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- RE: reception not useful for WG chairs Black, David
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Aaron Falk
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Mary Barnes
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Toerless Eckert
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Christian Hopps
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Michael Richardson
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Pete Resnick
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Fred Baker
- Re: reception not useful for WG chairs Wes Hardaker