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"STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> Tue, 14 May 2019 17:47 UTC

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From: "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>
To: "'Acee Lindem (acee)'" <acee@cisco.com>, "'Salz, Rich'" <rsalz@akamai.com>, 'Marc Blanchet' <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>, 'Bob Hinden' <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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The email that told us the newcomers reception would be discontinued said this was because the speed-mentoring session was perceived as being far more valuable/useful and it wasn't necessary to have both. As someone who participated in both, I completely agree with this assessment. The interaction I had with newcomers during speed-mentoring was significantly more substantive (and apparently more helpful to newcomers -- according to survey results) than at the newcomers reception. When newcomers would tell me their interests, I would often point them at a table (for their next 6 minute session) where there was a chair or AD they were interested in meeting. So newcomers were able to also meet chairs and ADs they were looking for, during speed-mentoring. And there was alcohol at the speed-mentoring, too.

So if the ADs and chairs would show up at a Sunday session called "newcomer speed mentoring" instead of "newcomer reception", I think the needs of newcomers would be met.

The discussion about chairs getting together with their ADs is a distinct problem and shouldn't be conflated with meeting the needs of newcomers.
Barbara

> From: Acee Lindem
> (acee)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:09 PM
> To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>; Marc Blanchet
> <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>; Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
> Cc: Working Group Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: reception not useful for WG chairs
> 
> Absolutely - who decided to discontinue the Newcomers (and Oldtimers)
> Reception anyway? Seems pretty short-sighted.
> Acee
> 
> On 5/14/19, 1:07 PM, "WGChairs on behalf of Salz, Rich" <wgchairs-
> bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
> 
>     +1
> 
>     On 5/14/19, 1:02 PM, "Marc Blanchet" <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>         +1. same here.
> 
>         While not perfect, overall, probably the best ratio of usefulness. I’m
>         also doing both: meet some newcomers and also ADs. Sometimes,
>         interrupting discussion with AD while inviting a newcomer to join.
> 
>         Marc.
> 
>         On 14 May 2019, at 12:58, Bob Hinden wrote:
> 
>         > I like the newcomers reception.  I use it to meet actual newcomers,
>         > and to talk to ADs and other w.g. chair.   It’s a much better
>         > environment for these discussions than the formal welcome reception
>         > that follows.  That is much bigger and noisier.
>         >
>         > The newcomers reception is not perfect (what is?), but it works for
>         > me.  I hope we continue it, the alternatives are not as good.   One of
>         > its big values is that is on Sunday before the w.g. meetings start.
>         >
>         > Bob
> 
> 
> 
>

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