Re: [ietf-dkim] A more fundamental SSP axiom

"Hector Santos" <hsantos@santronics.com> Sat, 05 August 2006 18:58 UTC

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From: Hector Santos <hsantos@santronics.com>
To: Douglas Otis <dotis@mail-abuse.org>, Mark Delany <MarkD+dkim@yahoo-inc.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] A more fundamental SSP axiom
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:54:45 -0400
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Otis" <dotis@mail-abuse.org>
To: "Mark Delany" <MarkD+dkim@yahoo-inc.com>


> The default assumption of a listed domain in the policy would be to
> assume "I sign all".  This could even be called the "I sign all" list.
> The only embellishment needed would be the "Only". The default policy
> when none is found would be an empty list with the assumed "I sign all"
> assertion.
>

+1.

In terms of the DSAP draft syntax:

    OP=ALWAYS; 3P=NEVER;     # Only "I" sign mail

or

    OP=ALWAYS; 3P=ALWAYS;    # "I" sign mail
    3PL=;                    # defined, but empty list;


In terms of the SSP draft syntax:

   o=!  # All mail from the entity is signed; Third-Party signatures
        # SHOULD NOT be accepted

But the SSP I-D stills has the "semantics" argument of what is meant by
"Third-Party signatures SHOULD NOT be accepted."  I took this to mean 100%
exclusivity. Apparently that is not what it means.  Hence one of the reasons
for a "Fill in the holes" DSAP I-D proposal


--
Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com







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