Re: [ietf-dkim] A more fundamental SSP axiom

Damon <deepvoice@gmail.com> Fri, 04 August 2006 17:26 UTC

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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:24:22 -0400
From: Damon <deepvoice@gmail.com>
To: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] A more fundamental SSP axiom
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On 8/4/06, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:
> Steve Atkins wrote:
>
> >
> > On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Michael Thomas wrote:
> >
> >> John L wrote:
> >>
> >>>   I REALLY do not want an SSP that says "I sign everything, and
> >>> here is my estimate on a 0 to 10 scale of how much you should care."
> >>
> >>
> >> I assume that you'd complain if it boiled down to a single bit?
> >>
> >> 0: "mail from this domain may transit manglers, adjust accordingly"
> >
> >
> > 0: "I sign some mail"
>
>
> Incorrect. They are *not* the same statement. "some" may mean
> in reality (and often does) "none". Versus our domain signing every
> piece of legitimate mail even if some of the signatures get broken
> due to mailing lists.
>

You are missing my point: What good are the keys if the ones you are
handing me are to a Waffle House or 7-11?

> >> 1: "the signature should always be intact"
> >>
> >
> > 1: "I sign all mail"
>
> No. "I sign all mail" is merely a statement of fact. "should always be
> intact"
> is predictive. They are *not* the same.
>

I was basing this comment on my previous comment that "I sign some
mail" is pointless. So if it is pointless, you now have a binary
choice. I sign all mail or I don't. If you don't, no need to publish a
record. Which as logic would have it, would mean that if you did have
a record, you sign all mail.

Damon
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