Re: Hotel situation

Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Sun, 10 January 2016 08:54 UTC

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 00:54:08 -0800
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
Subject: Re: Hotel situation
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Nice old story. I bet the hotels have learned to better classify
clientele and offer appropriate discounts on rooms. If i remember
correctly, when Ciscos conference went to Vegas just a few years back,
the rates at the conference hotel Mandalay Bay where fairly high, but 
the rates at adjacent Luxor where at its usual touristy low (*).

Vegas might still be good for work: If i rank cities based on stuff that
could be more interesting than work, Vegas would rank fairly low for me. 
One of these days i just want to go to CES.

Btw: "Going to CES" seems to be a code word to actually go some place
else. Would be fun to have IETF in the same week in Vegas as Def Con.
Like CES, i only know the german counterpart.  Especially with the influx
of privacy religion into the IETF, there could be some good
cross-polination. Like CES, i only know the german counterpart yet
(CCC in Hamburg was very well made. Alas, last time next yet, highly
recommended).

Cheers
    Toerless

On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 09:32:37PM -0800, Randall Gellens wrote:
> At 8:25 PM +0000 1/9/16, Lloyd Wood wrote:
> 
> > blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; 
> >border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex 
> >!important; background-color:white !important; } and then there was 
> >that time physicists met in Las Vegas and the town told them never 
> >to return.
> >
> >
> > <>http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2015/09/one-winning-move.html
> >
> >
> > L.
> >
> >
> > the only winning move is not to bet on -00.
> 
> 
> Amusing story, although I expect that, were the IETF to try and 
> emulate this, the hotel would find it one of their most profitable 
> weeks.  Likely the bar tabs alone would fund the entire hotel 
> operation, with gambling winnings providing pure gravy.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, January 9, 2016, 11:14 AM, Randall Gellens 
> ><rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> wrote:
> >
> > At 8:19 AM -<tel:0800%201/5/16>0800 1/5/16, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> >
> >
> >>  Las Vegas would clearly win, but I have a strong impression that
> >>  many of our attendees would object to going there. (It also happens
> >>  to be a "tourist destination" for reasons that kind of escapes
> >>  me, but that's yet another discussion).
> >
> >
> > I'd be very upset if we started meeting in perhaps the last remaining
> > all-smoking-all-the-time location in the U.S. or Canada.
> >
> > --
> > Randall Gellens
> > Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
> > -------------- Randomly selected tag: ---------------
> > In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up
> > because I wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I
> > didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.  They came for the trade
> > unionists, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.  Then
> > they came for Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a
> > Protestant.  Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left
> > to speak up.                                        --Martin Niemoell
> 
> 
> -- 
> Randall Gellens
> Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
> -------------- Randomly selected tag: ---------------
> Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

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Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com