Re: Cross-area review (was Meeting rotation)

[Dave Crocker <[e-mail]>]

On 12/21/2015 5:59 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
> I'm not certain we are getting to "good enough" quite often
> enough.  Moreover, what was "good enough" when the expectation
> was that people would not deploy Proposed Standards in products,
> at least without understanding that was a risk and treating it
> as such, may not be "good enough" when Proposed Standards are
> not only deployed but the community's attitude seems to be that


This nicely summarizes a common bit of mythology in the IETF.

First it presumes that folk out there in develop-and-deploy land have no 
ability to assess what they are developing and deploying.

Second is that it presumes that there has been some sort of major change 
in the way IETF specs are processed pre- and post- Proposed status 
assignment.

Both are fundamentally wrong.

The IETF is a collaborative community venture, not a grand parental 
oversight commission.  Folk out their in product-land have been able to 
deal with immature, flakey and changing IETF specs productively for more 
than 25 years.

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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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