Re: Cross-area review (was Meeting rotation)

[Abdussalam Baryun <[e-mail]>]

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Keith Moore <[e-mail]>
wrote:


> When I was an AD, I caught several serious problems with drafts after WG
> or IETF Last Call.
>
> The problem I saw wasn't the inability to catch things so much as the
> inability to get them fixed.    By the time a draft got past WG Last Call,
> it was generally so exhausted that it could not agree on how to make any
> significant change to a document, even in response to a legitimate and
> serious concern.   In many cases, if there was a simple fix, it was quickly
> and happily implemented.   But in far too many cases where there was a
> serious problem, the most that an IESG member could hope for was to get
> some weasel words inserted in the text or prepend an IESG note - neither of
> which really addressed the problem.
>
> It was entirely too much work to do all of that review.   After being on
> IESG for four years, it was about ten years before I could stomach a
> detailed review of any lengthy technical document.   While on IESG I tried
> getting others to do reviews for me, but I found that I still had to read
> the documents under review to make sense of the reviews I was getting.   If
> I had to do that again today, I'd probably try to give the reviewers more
> guidance.
>
> But mostly I think that WGs need to have their work subject to formal
> external review much earlier in the process than Last Call, particularly
> when the WG's work has the potential to impact other WGs or other areas.
>

Easiest way for cross reviews are in meetings, maybe a method can be that
cross-reviews need to be prepared for meetings by WG-chair or ADs. Usually
the ADs are available and responsible, but they need to organise this in
new methods maybe. I think the best way is to have AD feedback in each
meeting session related to all WG-IDs. I think the AD should point to the
cross-WG issues while meetings for each work. The AD feedback will
encourage others to think of the integration of IDs which makes problems
less to occur.

AB