Re: Hotel situation

Randall Gellens <> Sat, 09 January 2016 00:11 UTC

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Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 16:10:56 -0800
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At 10:01 AM -0500 1/5/16, John C Klensin wrote:

>  That leads to another conclusion: many locations have clear
>  "low" and "high" seasons.  They can be great meeting locations
>  in the low seasons because hotels and other facilities are
>  hungry and more anxious to accommodate (on rates, room blocks,
>  and more generally) than when they are convinced that most of
>  their rooms will be filled no matter what they do.  Minneapolis
>  or Toronto in the dead of winter or Phoenix in July might be
>  good examples of that -- whether those are tourist destinations
>  in the high season or not, they almost certainly are not in the
>  low season.

Even shoulder seasons can be a great time to visit, for the same reasons.

Also, contrary to what one might expect, November is not high season 
in Hawaii.  Depending on which guide you trust, November is either 
low season or shoulder season.

Hawaii seasons:

	*	high season: June to August, late December to early January
	*	low season: mid-January to March
	*	shoulder season: mid-March to May, September to November


Most visitors come to Hawaii when the weather is lousy most 
everywhere else. Thus, the high season-when prices are up and resorts 
are often booked to capacity-is generally from mid-December to March 
or mid-April. The last 2 weeks of December, in particular, are prime 
time for travel to Hawaii. Spring break is also jam-packed with 
families taking advantage of the school holiday. If you're planning a 
trip during peak season, make your hotel and rental car reservations 
as early as possible, expect crowds, and prepare to pay top dollar.

The off season, when the best rates are available and the islands are 
less crowded, is late spring (mid-Apr to early June) and fall (Sept 
to mid-Dec).

If you plan to travel in summer (June-Aug), don't expect to see the 
fantastic bargains of spring and fall-this is prime time for family 
travel. But you'll still find much better deals on packages, airfare, 
and accommodations in summer than in the winter months.

Randall Gellens
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