Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[e-mail]>]

I think the “border” line between what is being done in EU and US is that in EU this is only done under a terrorism classification ?

I can ask about this to a Spanish State Lawyer that I will be able to talk at the end of the week …

I knew about the UK case, but I no longer consider UK part of the EU, never has been “totally”, and clearly it should be considered also when we plan new meetings.

Regards,
Jordi
 

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De: ietf <[e-mail]> en nombre de Christian Huitema <[e-mail]>
Responder a: <[e-mail]>
Fecha: lunes, 3 de abril de 2017, 19:32
Para: <[e-mail]>
Asunto: Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

    
    
    On 4/3/2017 9:39 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    > I’m not convinced (despite laws may say it), if computer inspection, even “temporal” confiscation, is being used in EU. At least I never heard about that, and even less in my own country, though I may be missing cases in other EU countries.
    You are indeed missing something.
    
    Here is one pretty famous case, happened in Heathrow: Greenwald's
    partner detained, thumb drives confiscated.
    http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/08/19/snowden-documents-seized-heathrow-intimidation-says-greenwald-his-partner-detained
    
    Here is a clip about Canada's refusal to disclose laptop search policy:
    http://boingboing.net/2010/02/09/canadian-customs-ref.html
    
    Article 60 of French custom code authorizes inspection of anything you
    carry, can be interpreted as authorizing search of laptops or cell phones:
    https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do;jsessionid=AA678D3E2AC873493D4025F33776856A.tpdila20v_2?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA000006138841&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006071570&dateTexte=20130315
    
    Various European countries, including the UK and France, have passed
    inquisitive snooping laws. Maybe they are less visible than what happens
    in the US, but I would not hold my breath...
    
    -- Christian Huitema
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    >
    > Definitively if that happens to me in EU, I will not provide passwords even if I don’t have anything to hide, but just because customer’s info confidentiality, signed NDAs, etc. I don’t think that will bring me to the jail. However, in US, detention is a fact, right?
    >
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    >  
    >
    
    
    
    



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