Re: PowerPoint considered harmful (was Re: Barely literate minutes)

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 02 December 2012 16:26 UTC

Return-Path: <johnl@iecc.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B326321F86CC for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:26:46 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -105.641
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.641 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.258, BAYES_00=-2.599, HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI=-4.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jY7mUT47o+mo for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:26:46 -0800 (PST)
Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8307621F84B5 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sun, 2 Dec 2012 08:26:45 -0800 (PST)
Received: (qmail 88152 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2012 16:26:41 -0000
Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2012 16:26:41 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50bb8141.xn--hew.k1211; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=ihGoNnHzzaGxGBtcEh087Zf90Ybb8nAExa2fj3jrB34=; b=nj7xbXP4aPekUKviqc/8CGYJalGIjthoJQcuVOx1EgwKDaVUWMqA2hR9a6SzZ9GURefrHOFzmkzPgnuus46jZJq6N0Ui8UUsZmhHB22kv7bN+kIAIMld4bqOYEgiIK9G3gXWKKojSrSajbyZKrQNP3rnBfQ7N1/feU9VH4iNXBs=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:vbr-info; s=50bb8141.xn--hew.k1211; olt=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=ihGoNnHzzaGxGBtcEh087Zf90Ybb8nAExa2fj3jrB34=; b=tBl9f8o4hEXqbHnevhD5Ail7fUstI8/kV0f2aqcCe+mCBT37Julh8FSodYMLeiIitgt/LbYGJvvb9Bc2RCEKfAeeYb4fvS5rnMxCBGOuHLL7KHyeoRXcFABhLLC9SYt5HleIKpqkmNTEAqpO5WnQD0hXwfBYpI/nXaZhAW3XPuU=
VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:26:19 -0000
Message-ID: <20121202162619.59866.qmail@joyce.lan>
From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: PowerPoint considered harmful (was Re: Barely literate minutes)
In-Reply-To: <3717C2CC54EB3B1A8E3E8EEA@JcK-HP8200.jck.com>
Organization:
X-Headerized: yes
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
Cc: john-ietf@jck.com
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 16:26:46 -0000

>Anyone for incorporating a slide (!) into the Newcomer's
>Presentation (!!) that says "a presentation in a f2f meeting
>that makes extensive use of PowerPoint decks with many and/or
>dense slides brands the presenter as either a newcomer, someone
>who is trying to avoid an actual discussion, or a fool"?   :-(

No, just hand out copies of this:

http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_pp

-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly