Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]

Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au> Mon, 02 June 2014 03:41 UTC

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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 20:37:53 -0700
From: Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>, Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]
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----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
> To: Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
> Cc: Philip Homburg <pch-v6ops-3a@u-1.phicoh.com>; V6 Ops List <v6ops@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, 2 June 2014 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]
> 
> 
> In message <F12F173B-9FF2-4EF8-B11E-33AEDA24961F@nominum.com>, Ted Lemon 
> writes
> :

<snip>

> 
> All dual stack machines are multihomed.  HE is basically about fast
> failover when the destination addresses are unreachable.  This is not
> hard to do.  From memory BSD 4.2 supported non blocking connect
> which is all that is required from the IP stack to do fast failover.
> 

Fred wrote a very interesting draft on this, in particular including references to multihoming support/discussion earlier than RFC1123:

"Happier Eyeballs"
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-baker-happier-eyeballs-00

"Abstract

   Multihoming in modern networks has problems with differing quality of
   routes.  This note generalizes the concept of happy eyeballs across a
   variety of multihoming scenarios."


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