Re: [v6ops] ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks

"Liubing (Leo)" <leo.liubing@huawei.com> Tue, 27 May 2014 08:13 UTC

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From: "Liubing (Leo)" <leo.liubing@huawei.com>
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
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From: Lorenzo Colitti [mailto:lorenzo@google.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:27 PM
To: Liubing (Leo)
Cc: Randy Bush; v6ops WG
Subject: Re: [v6ops] ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Liubing (Leo) <leo.liubing@huawei.com<mailto:leo.liubing@huawei.com>> wrote:
  * If it connects to the global Internet, then need some operation to add a new global prefix and ensure the address selection in the right form. Or just put a NAT.

Please don't propose NAT as a solution to this.

  *   NAT imposes substantial additional complexity on many applications, and breaks applications that do not implement that complexity.
  *   NAT is strongly discouraged by the IAB (RFC 5902 section 4.1).
  *   NAT provides no advantages compared to using ULA + GUA.
[Bing] Ok, I shouldn’t mention it. Thanks.

Regards,
Bing