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Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Mon, 02 June 2014 14:33 UTC

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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]
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Hi,

On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 02:29:07PM +0100, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Multihoming works just fine without NAT as is. I run a network at home which is multihomed in both IPv4 and IPv6 without NAT.
> 
> Multihoming is not what is actually being discussed here. As Lorenzo pointed out this discussion seems to be limited to the (pathological) case of multihoming which involves a separate selection of source address for each upstream which is, for the most part, unique to IPv6 and does, indeed, pose additional challenges not present in traditional multihoming.

It would be really helpful if you could label your soapbox properly, and
if you talk about "BGP based multihoming with PI addresses", then please
*label* it as such.

The term "multihoming" does not imply more than "multihoming", in particular,
it does not require a specific technology or addressing policy to be used.

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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