Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 01 June 2014 22:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] PI [ULA draft revision #2 Regarding isolated networks]
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On 02/06/2014 08:38, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 2:02 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>> Assumption of the Existence of HE  is a pretty dodgy proposition.
> 
> Then we can't do multihoming without NAT.

That's not what RFC 7157 says. Not even close.

   Brian